Thursday, November 13, 2008

#15





Tampa Bay Lightning - St. Pete Times Forum


Location/Scene
– None of us can really be considered fans of central * Florida, but the location is fine, right in “downtown” Tampa. The usual nice weather means there are probably always a good amount of people hanging around the rink. There were a few exhibits/stands set up around the entrance. More importantly, across the street is Andreychuk’s, which is possibly the best hockey/pregame bar we’ve been to yet. Nice time there.

Outside Appearance
– This place is massive looking from the outside. Tons of clean lines and glass make it a very appealing exterior. Simple, but very attractive.

Inner Aesthetics
– One of the easiest ways to please us in terms of the seating bowl of a rink is to make the damn seats match the arena and team colors. This is especially true if the hockey team is the lone/major tenant. SPTF gets this right; the seats look great and make an otherwise cavernous and boring interior look great. Still, the place is giant and you definitely feel like you’re a mile from the ice when you’re up top. The rest of the layout is nice, as is the scoreboard.

Concourse
– Bland. Another instance where if we’d come here just having experienced NVMC and MSG in our lives, this would be a palace. But there isn’t much to distinguish it, give it a local flair, or attract your attention. Strangely, the font used on the exterior section markers is tiny and hard to read.

Sightlines – Very good for a big rink, which usually means very vertical. We had pretty poor seats and yet the view was as good as a lot of other, smaller rinks. A good hockey-watching venue

Bathrooms
– The only thing worth a comment is that there were a ton of them. Has to be a good thing, right?

Concessions
– Good quality, selection, and price; but poor in terms of interesting or unique items.

Fans/Atmosphere – Quite good, as is usually described. The building gets quite loud and the fans don’t need stupid prodding to get into the game. Not afraid to voice their displeasure (appropriately) either. Yet another in what will be a trend of very, very good crowds and savvy fans in non-traditional areas.

History/Banners - The banners are absolutely awesome. Beyond that there is very little honoring their history. Obviously, they were bad for so long but they had some players the fans liked. Brian Bradley, Darren Puppa, John Cullen. Put freaking pictures of them up or something. Represent.

Cool Stuff
– Not much, which is made worse by the fact that there’s plenty of room for it here. Probably two times more interesting stuff outside of the building than in it.

Bars
– Actually quite a few places to get cocktails, which is great for us. A few larger spots with seating.

Store – Another rink with a lot of stands cluttering up the concourse that offer a whole lot of nothing. Between the two visits we can’t remember anything cool or worth buying (again- that is saying something for this group). CC remains appalled at the lack of player t-shirts here. Note to NHL teams: after you load up on pink jerseys and rally monkeys and 70 dollar hoodies, go ahead and stock some non-superstar name and number shirts. We will buy them.

Value
– The upper tickets were very cheap. Probably a big reason they draw so consistently well. Nothing else stood out as crazy one way or the other.

Overall
– Can’t put it much better than CC did after his 2nd (solo) visit here: Positives include the awesome blue seats, a nice scoreboard, pretty solid fans, reasonable tickets and food, plentiful bathrooms, good sightlines (though it is massive), and the great pavilion out front highlighted by the lightning bolts. On the negative side the place is pretty bland. Absolutely no bells and whistles. Not one food item that approaches unique. Their hallways are boring. A middle of the pack building as it is now.

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Thursday, November 06, 2008

#16




Phillips Arena - Atlanta Thrashers

Convenience/Access - Its right in downtown Atlanta (whatever the hell that even means) and easy to walk to from much of the city. There was plenty of parking, including a massive garage that we mistook for the rink for about 5 minutes.

Location/Scene - Inside the CNN center which is basically a fancy mall. There wasn't much of a scene but there were a lot of people milling around.

Outside Appearance
- Very nice. Lots of windows and a cool "Atlanta" sculpture on the front. The outside look sort of masks how giant this building is inside.

Inner Aesthetics - One of the only real unique layouts in the league here- all of the luxury boxes and club seats are stacked on one side of the ice. They themselves look nice, but overall this gives the whole inside an odd look when you're sitting across from them. The look of the seating bowl and seats themselves is decidedly average. Light blue dividers between glass panes is nice. Gray steel steps and barriers visible everywhere is not.

Concourse - Probably the biggest concourse we've ever seen in an indoor stadium. Big enough to have a nice, multi-story lobby in the front. Big enough to have the old scoreboard from the Omni (sweet) sitting there and not look overly big. There is a ton going on out here- stores, food, non-sports shops, a million televisions, and nooks and areas that seem like they've never been discovered. There is no denying that it's a really nice concourse but we all agree that the overall impression becomes a bit too much. Also, on the upper level, due to the aforementioned layout of the luxury boxes, you cant make a 360 degree lap around the arena. This is a major, major ding to us.

Sightlines - The upper seats are pretty far away. Once more, nothing of note to report here.

Bathrooms - Big and clean. They were definitely used thoroughly by at least 2 of us.

Concessions - Everything you could possibly want, it really does remind you of a mall food court. Quality was good.

Fans/Atmosphere
- We aren't going to pile on Atlanta here. They have had it really rough. But even with Philly (and a lot of their fans) in town, there was nothing in the atmosphere here to warrant a positive or even condescendingly upbeat comment.

History/Banners
- The Thrashers have no history, but the Hawks banners were awesome.

Cool Stuff
- Let's see. There's the aforementioned scoreboard. Tons of TVs with other games from around the league on (something we haven't seen enough of across the trip). Two bird head type structures dangle from the ceiling and spew fire whenever the Thrash do something good like score (or, presumably, win). But its unlikely anything will ever approach the cool factor of stumbling (literally) into a random (and giant) room somewhere just off the concourse to find boxes of Hawks promotional items. It's generous to count this in the arena's overall favor, but damn right we are going to.

Bars - There were certainly tons of them, but we were too busy combing the bowels of this mega-concourse to be distracted by them.

Store - The store here is excellent and had the largest amount of off-the-rack player customized jerseys we've seen outside of Buffalo. This store spawned the most absurd impulse purchases of the trip when Justin and Mike simply could not resist 40 dollar Hawks jerseys. There are multiple stands where you can bring a jersey and get it professionally stitched right there.

Value - We paid well under 40 dollars to see an NHL game and an NBA game in a nice building in a span of 18 hours. Win.

Overall - Here is where we start to see the difficulty in ranking these places. Phillips is a sweet building. It is has a lot of quirks and is clean and easy to get to. But as a place to watch a hockey game, we all agreed that it is overwhelmingly bland. Juxtaposing those 2 things is hard to explain, but you'll have to trust us.

Sunday, November 02, 2008

#17




Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum - New York Islanders

So yeah, the write up here will be much longer than usual, since this is one of our "home" rinks. Between the three of us we have seen more NHL games here than anywhere else. That's unfortunate, but really no better base to get an appreciation for what else is out there. Listen, the Coliseum sucks. Really, really hard. It's bad for visiting players, bad for the home team, bad for fans. Yes, its old-school and no frills. Yes, it has the best sightlines anywhere in the league- too bad this simply affords one a superlative view of Andy Hilbert. But there are places that give you these things and still act as viable locations for professional sporting events. The Isles need a new facility to survive as a franchise, plain and simple.

Convenience/Access - There are two ways to assess this category for the NVMC. If you live on Long Island, then you likely own a car (or three) and are used to ridiculous traffic and giant parking lots. The location of the rink is fine and relatively central population-wise. The other way of looking at it is that there is next to no way to get here via public transport if you don't live on the Island, are coming from out of town, cant drive, or would like to imbibe heavily while watching Freddy Meyer and Chris Campoli. A shuttle service from the nearest LIRR stations would do wonders here. Note that nearest does not mean close. In the end its probably unlikely that the location of NVMC keeps that many people away, but it for damn sure doesn't bring anybody, either.

Location/Scene - The only things within legitimate walking distance of NVMC are a Marriott (where many opposing teams no longer even stay) and a few delis/pizza joints across a 6 lane highway. Not so sweet. There is some proper tailgating on weekend games.

Outside Appearance - It's a big white dish in the middle of a parking lot. There are no windows. It isn't attractive, but it does scream 'hockey rink'. It would scream 'hockey rink' even more if there wasn't an equal-to-the NYI-one-sized New York Dragons (that's the Arena Football League, folks) banner draped hideously across the front. We're All Islanders. Or Dragons.

Inner Aesthetics
- This place looks great largely because you can see all of it so easily. It is small, and it feels small. The seats are close to the ice, and there isn't much wasted space (except for a wide walkway behind each net). You really do feel like you could pick out someone sitting at the other corner of the rink, or in one of the luxury boxes. When half the building isn't empty, it looks even better. The seats/interior are slightly drab looking, but not enough to be a negative. The scoreboard, after a much-maligned absence and reemergence a decade ago, is small and basic but plenty adequate for such a small rink.

Concourse
- Word up to Mellon Arena, which has given us new perspective on how poor a concourse can be. We now know that NVMC sports only the second-worst concourse in hockey. The floors are nasty and hideously tiled, it gets crowded due to the lines for the bathrooms which snake along the length of 3 gates, and there is absolutely nothing to do or see except possibly sign up for Newsday and ruin your credit rating. Ask Eric.

Sightlines - This is an outstanding rink to watch a hockey game in, possibly the best in the league. While it wouldn't be 100% accurate to say that there isn't a bad seat in the house, (some back row seats have really bad views under a low overhang) its damn close. The upper sections are closer to the ice than anywhere we've seen. The front rows of the upper tier and back rows of the lower tier are probably the best vantage points for a hockey game in the NHL. The sightlines here are phenomenal and you can feel the game from anywhere in the rink.

Bathrooms
- Oh, the coliseum bathrooms. The stuff of lore. At 6:30 on a weeknight, during warm-ups, even with < style="font-style: italic;">
Concessions - Nothing interesting or really worth getting. There are more than enough stands though.

Comfort - The seats have above-average comfort, but with below-average legroom. It is consistently very, very cold in this rink.

Fans/Atmosphere - Everything that's written about the Coliseum atmosphere on a big playoff night is true- the place is loud and awesome. The low ceilings and tiny seating bowl equate to a lot of noise. But let's not kid ourselves- most people who just come to LI to see one game here will leave thinking that this is nothing short of a brutal, mid-tier ECHL team atmosphere, if for no other reason than that the Islanders rarely draw more than 12k, and put on the most heinous, insulting-to-fans game presentation of any major sports team in history. That is not an exaggeration. Buzz during NYI-NYR games is fantastic.

History - On one hand, the Isles bleed every possible event they can out of their 4 year glory run. There are alumni appearances/'nights' pretty much every season, as well as anniversary tributes and special appearances designed to get fans in the rink. They are always done with class (amazing for the Isles) but are way too frequent and have thus lost much of their cache. There are a lot of nice pictures around the concourse windows of past players, but no plaques or other informative displays. Of course, a large portion of the Islanders' history has no business being displayed. As for banners, NVMC should get a high score here, as the Isles have tons of players and accomplishments to celebrate. However, it took until very recently for management to see fit to clean any of the white banners, which were visibly soiled and had looked atrocious. They are also hung haphazardly and the font on the retired player banners is not consistent. More bush league, easily fixable stuff from the Isles here that goes from odd to completely infuriating once you've been to enough games.

Cool Stuff
- There is absolutely nothing cool or interesting or interesting to see in this arena.

Bars - There is one on the lower level. It's always crowded and we've never hung out there. Last year they put a few tents outside and have tables and beer stands set up, which is a good start and sort of expands the concourse.

Store
- Scattered booths around the concourse offer the usual stuff, all very expensive. There is actually a pretty good selection of player t-shirts, which is vital to us. You can buy NY lottery tickets here.

Value - Very overpriced tickets, which leads to a vicious cycle of poor attendance and ownership having to keep prices up to compensate. The 10 dollar walkup tickets are a good initiative which should be extended.

Overall
- The Coliseum is a dump, and has been for some time. Its sole selling point- tiny size and terrific view- gets swallowed up among a litany of negatives. Justin‚s hockey credentials have been impeccably hardened here- watching one of the worst team in the league in one of the worse structures in the sport. We love it, and yet, we hate it.

Random
- This will always be a funny sidenote in our chronicles- we all attended this rink together in 1997, a solid 8 years before the genesis of this quest. We sat in 3 different places and it was totally unknown at the time. We were (separately) with some of the other jabronis who we would, a decade later, drag along (or try to) on future trips. It was also a hilarious 3-3 tie with STL, the team which Eric would later become a full STH of, and featured one of the most Coliseum-defining moments ever (the re-unveiling of a new, slightly-less-crappy scoreboard- complete with black drape and spotlight). Feeling that this experience wasn't enough, we ventured back there together for a mid-year NYI-NJ contest which had all the potential in the world of being one of the least interesting games in NHL history- and somehow wound up being an awesome and entertaining game with a boisterous crowd.

2010 Olympic teams

My first post in quite a while. Here are my picks for Team USA and Team Canada for the 2010 Olympics.

Team USA

Head Coach: Peter Laviolette
Assistant Coach: John Tortorella
Captain: Chris Drury
Assistant Captains: Mike Komisarek and Zach Parise

Patrick Kane-Paul Stastny-Dustin Brown
Zach Parise-Scott Gomez-Phil Kessel
Patrick O'Sullivan-Chris Drury-Brian Rolston
Erik Cole-Brandon Dubinsky-Joe Pavelski

extra forwards; Jason Pominville and Peter Mueller

Brooks Orpik-Brian Rafalski
Ryan Suter-Mike Komisarek
Ryan Whitney-Erik Johnson

extra defenseman: Jack Johnson

Ryan Miller
Rick DiPietro

extra goalie: Tim Thomas

It's remarkable how much more depth we have compared to 2006. Assuming our up and coming young players develop the necessary leadership skills, USA Hockey should be fine for a while. We've got as much or more talent than we did in 1996 when we won the World Cup and in 2002 when we almost made away with a gold in Salt Lake City. This team was very hard to pick. Just 4 years ago at the World Cup we had the likes of Steve Konowalchuk, Ken Klee, and Jeff Halpern suiting up for us. All solid citizens, but basically third liner/third pair types. (Sorry Powers, not picking on ex-Caps). We've got a lot more to choose from now.

The same old problem persists though. We don't bring the consistent level of urgency to tournaments that other bring. We want to win but we'll never have the pressure of the other hockey playing powers. If Sweden or Finland are in a gold medal game, their countries shut down to watch it. Same in the Czech Republic and Slovakia. I wouldn't be surprised to learn of heads literally rolling in Russia if their team ended a tournament with a loss. Canada is Canada. They have to win.

Team Canada

Head Coach: Mike Babcock
Assistant Coach: Lindy Ruff
Captain: Sidney Crosby
Assistant Captains: Jarome Iginla and Chris Pronger

Rick Nash-Sidney Crosby-Jarome Iginla
Martin St.Louis-Vinny Lecavalier-Dany Heatley
Mike Richards-Jonathon Toews-Shane Doan
Eric Staal-Jordan Staal-Ryan Getzlaf

extra Forwards: Jason Spezza and Joe Thornton

Chris Pronger-Brent Burns
Dion Phaneuf-Shea Weber
Brian Campbell-Mike Green

extra defenseman: Dan Boyle

Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo

extra goalie: Marc-Andre Fleury

Canada's teams are always disgustingly good, but this one seems more so. Not since Steve Yzerman was getting snubbed for Canada Cup teams has someone with as much skill as Joe Thornton or Jason Spezza not gotten the call of duty. Poitras convinced me that Crosby would be a better captain than Iginla. This trio of captains will stare a hole through your soul if you fail to pick up your man. As long as the pressure their country puts on them doesn't unravel them it's hard to see them not at least making the gold medal game.

Saturday, November 01, 2008

#18




Mellon Arena - Pittsburgh Penguins

Convenience/Access - It isn't hard to get to and its in Pittsburgh proper. There are probably few to no people who walk here, though. Its not in a crowded area.

Location/Scene - The only thing that seemed remotely walkable was the hotel down the street. Hop in your car (perhaps a Mercedes truck) if you want a postgame scene.

Outside Appearance - It's a big white dish in the middle of a parking lot. Aah, the parallels with Nassau continue. (they aren't done). After some debate, we all agreed that this place is actually quite cool looking. The roof is definitely unique and doesn't look so bad from the outside. The outside of the structure is nice.

Inner Aesthetics
- The roof is a goddamned bubble! It is Idaho-level white and looks completely jarring, especially with giant ads plastered brutally all over it and scaffolding hanging down. The seating bowl is unique looking and hard to describe. It certainly isn't the oval/igloo shape you might expect. The seats are all red, except for the club seats, which are black. This would look good if the Devils played here. The scoreboard and signage are sub-par.

Concourse - It isn't common for the three of us to completely agree on something rink-related, much less use the same adjectives and superlatives when describing it. Yes if each of us had to summarize the Mellon concourse, it is a five-star lock that we would all use the following three words in some order: hazard, brutal, fire. There is nothing much to see or do other than pray for a swift return to your seat, or out of the building.

Sightlines - We expected better. They aren't bad of course, but for an old, smallish rink they certainly aren't outstanding. We have no idea what the view is like from the upper seats behind the nets that basically touch the roof as it slopes inward.

Bathrooms
- Unacceptable. First you have to navigate there, and then you have to handle them. Just hold it.

Concessions - Apparently all of the decent sporting event food in this city is at PNC. Expensive too. Iron City beer gets 2 out of three thumbs down.

Fans/Atmosphere - Thanks to a great young team, Pitt has gone from almost being relocated to Waterloo to being a tough ticket and an obnoxiously popular team. When we went the fans were loud but there was a high asshole contingent behind us. Its worth noting that besides that, every single encounter all three of us have ever had with Pittsburgh people is overwhelmingly positive. Some great folk in western PA.

History/Banners - Tons of great success in this place's past, but like on Long Island, you can't really feel it just being here. Its got the banners and such but you're not swimming in it (which we thing you should be) like in many other rinks.

Cool Stuff - We think we remember some table hockey games set up somewhere.

Bars - nah.

Store - The main store seemed decent, but the smaller kiosks were way too expensive and boring. This is one of the rare arenas where none of made an impulsive souvenir buy.

Value - Our tickets were very expensive for the quality, as was just about everything else. Apparently there are good student programs here.

Overall - We all like Pittsburgh a lot as a city. We all like the Igloo. It‚s just old and decrepit and needs replacing- and unlike with the Islanders, it will be soon. PNC Park is off-the-charts awesome, and Heinz is always rated highly as well. Consider also that Pit is one of the few NHL teams making money, and there are plenty of reasons to expect the new arena will be boss. But for now, the fact that it's a hilarious bubble and has a cool nickname does not cover up its warts, making it our choice (albeit a contentious one) for worst of the rinks so far.

Random - For lack of anything else better nearby to do, we hung around in the parking lot after the game on a really fucking cold night. Doing so provided us with humor and pictures that still stands out among trip moments.